Comments on: Say NO to discrimination in our community http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/ At home with Jono Bacon, Community Manager and Author Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: La représentation des femmes dans la communauté Ubuntu | openSYD http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-133721 La représentation des femmes dans la communauté Ubuntu | openSYD Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:49:30 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-133721 <p>[...] et Melissa Draper (une « Ubuntu addict from Australia ») a donné lieu à un billet sur le blog de Jono et une excellente lettre ouverte à la communauté Open Source de la part de [...]</p> [...] et Melissa Draper (une « Ubuntu addict from Australia ») a donné lieu à un billet sur le blog de Jono et une excellente lettre ouverte à la communauté Open Source de la part de [...]

]]> By: ashley http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-126643 ashley Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:20:13 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-126643 <p>i am writing a paper on discrimination against the elderly in the workplace and community and i was just wondering if somebody could give me a definition of discrimination in the community and it would be greatly appreciated if you could help me come up with some main topics for this.</p> <p>thanks:smile:</p> i am writing a paper on discrimination against the elderly in the workplace and community and i was just wondering if somebody could give me a definition of discrimination in the community and it would be greatly appreciated if you could help me come up with some main topics for this.

thanks:smile:

]]> By: jess http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-120945 jess Mon, 19 May 2008 11:45:55 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-120945 <p>I also believe that all discrimination is wrong. I am doing an assignment at this moment about disability discrimination and why people discriminate. My reponse to that queston was... People discriminate because people can't except that everyone is different. If people can except that everyone is different we wouldn't have a problem!</p> I also believe that all discrimination is wrong. I am doing an assignment at this moment about disability discrimination and why people discriminate. My reponse to that queston was… People discriminate because people can’t except that everyone is different. If people can except that everyone is different we wouldn’t have a problem!

]]> By: grep|grrl » Blog Archive » La représentation des femmes dans la communauté Ubuntu http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-64086 grep|grrl » Blog Archive » La représentation des femmes dans la communauté Ubuntu Thu, 07 Jun 2007 09:31:19 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-64086 <p>[...] Cette campagne, dont sont à l’origine Jono Bacon (responsable de la communauté Ubuntu appointé par Canonical) et Melissa Draper (une “Ubuntu addict from Australia”) a donné lieu à un billet sur le blog de Jono et une excellente lettre ouverte à la communauté Open Source de la part de Melissa. [...]</p> [...] Cette campagne, dont sont à l’origine Jono Bacon (responsable de la communauté Ubuntu appointé par Canonical) et Melissa Draper (une “Ubuntu addict from Australia”) a donné lieu à un billet sur le blog de Jono et une excellente lettre ouverte à la communauté Open Source de la part de Melissa. [...]

]]> By: fragility » Blog Archive » Oh please… http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-60694 fragility » Blog Archive » Oh please… Mon, 28 May 2007 17:46:15 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-60694 <p>[...] After some issues that recently striked the Ubuntu community I hoped people’s minds would be a bit more open. Maybe the “humanity to others” means “imposing my moral values to others” to some persons. [...]</p> [...] After some issues that recently striked the Ubuntu community I hoped people’s minds would be a bit more open. Maybe the “humanity to others” means “imposing my moral values to others” to some persons. [...]

]]> By: Jonas http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-60198 Jonas Sat, 26 May 2007 23:32:00 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-60198 <p>ryan: I don't see why. If a woman pointed out that someone in a group was mailing her in private asking for her phone number or whatever he did, I certainly wouldn't think less of her. On the contrary, I'd be glad that she had pointed out what jerk that person is, and think that she did the exact right thing by pointing it out in public rather than keeping it secret and then suddenly blowing a fuse and directing her anger at all males in her vicinity (yes it's a stereotype, but they exist for a reason, and I've witnessed this too many times for me to dismiss it, but no, I'm not saying everyone does that).</p> <p>But maybe it's a female thing - keeping problems under covers and only talking about them in a roundabout way. I guess I'll just have to accept that, then, but I still don't see who on earth would think that she's a bitch (censoring with stars is stupid) who is hard to work with - other than the original jerk, perhaps.</p> ryan: I don’t see why. If a woman pointed out that someone in a group was mailing her in private asking for her phone number or whatever he did, I certainly wouldn’t think less of her. On the contrary, I’d be glad that she had pointed out what jerk that person is, and think that she did the exact right thing by pointing it out in public rather than keeping it secret and then suddenly blowing a fuse and directing her anger at all males in her vicinity (yes it’s a stereotype, but they exist for a reason, and I’ve witnessed this too many times for me to dismiss it, but no, I’m not saying everyone does that).

But maybe it’s a female thing – keeping problems under covers and only talking about them in a roundabout way. I guess I’ll just have to accept that, then, but I still don’t see who on earth would think that she’s a bitch (censoring with stars is stupid) who is hard to work with – other than the original jerk, perhaps.

]]> By: ryan http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-59358 ryan Thu, 24 May 2007 01:55:06 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-59358 <p>Jonas: Read what Olly said. Its not something obvious, usually. Realistically speaking, if someone says something inappropriate to you, what do you do? Stand up and scream "this jerk here isn't respecting my abilities! he just asked me for my phone number!". At best you just get a reputation for being a b**** that is hard to work with -- you're best to just suck it up and walk away.</p> <p>The point I think you're trying to make, and I totally agree with, is the best thing to do, is increase the amount of dialogue and communication, which I think is what we're trying to do. But its a two-way process where the listener has the responsibility to pay attention carefully to what the speaker is trying to say.</p> Jonas: Read what Olly said. Its not something obvious, usually. Realistically speaking, if someone says something inappropriate to you, what do you do? Stand up and scream “this jerk here isn’t respecting my abilities! he just asked me for my phone number!”. At best you just get a reputation for being a b**** that is hard to work with — you’re best to just suck it up and walk away.

The point I think you’re trying to make, and I totally agree with, is the best thing to do, is increase the amount of dialogue and communication, which I think is what we’re trying to do. But its a two-way process where the listener has the responsibility to pay attention carefully to what the speaker is trying to say.

]]> By: Khaos » Blog Archive » Discrimination Against Women in Technology http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-59153 Khaos » Blog Archive » Discrimination Against Women in Technology Wed, 23 May 2007 13:40:18 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-59153 <p>[...] Jono has been writing about discrimination and in particular discrimination towards women in technology. This is a subject that I have mixed feelings about. I don’t believe that anyone, male or female, should be treated badly simply because of their gender but I do think that it’s very hard to treat men and women in the same way as they are different. I’ll give you an example. As part of my job I used to have to move computer equipment between labs. Some of the men who worked with me found it very difficult to let me carry heavy equipment. Was this sexual discrimination or mere politeness on their part? Or was their reluctance to let me lift things something I should have been annoyed at or something that should have pleased me? [...]</p> [...] Jono has been writing about discrimination and in particular discrimination towards women in technology. This is a subject that I have mixed feelings about. I don’t believe that anyone, male or female, should be treated badly simply because of their gender but I do think that it’s very hard to treat men and women in the same way as they are different. I’ll give you an example. As part of my job I used to have to move computer equipment between labs. Some of the men who worked with me found it very difficult to let me carry heavy equipment. Was this sexual discrimination or mere politeness on their part? Or was their reluctance to let me lift things something I should have been annoyed at or something that should have pleased me? [...]

]]> By: Khaos » Blog Archive » Is Sexual Discrimination Really an Issue in the Perl Community? http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-59152 Khaos » Blog Archive » Is Sexual Discrimination Really an Issue in the Perl Community? Wed, 23 May 2007 13:39:45 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-59152 <p>[...] I’ve been reading the comments on Jono’s post regarding discrimination and a couple of them are asking for actual examples of sexual discrimination in their communities. I’m a member of the Perl community and I was trying to remember if I’ve ever had a problem with sexual discrimination. My first thought was that I haven’t at all. And then I occurred to me that maybe once, and I mean once in seven years, that assumptions were made because of my sex. [...]</p> [...] I’ve been reading the comments on Jono’s post regarding discrimination and a couple of them are asking for actual examples of sexual discrimination in their communities. I’m a member of the Perl community and I was trying to remember if I’ve ever had a problem with sexual discrimination. My first thought was that I haven’t at all. And then I occurred to me that maybe once, and I mean once in seven years, that assumptions were made because of my sex. [...]

]]> By: Jonas http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/05/22/say-no-to-discrimination-in-our-community/comment-page-1/#comment-59129 Jonas Wed, 23 May 2007 11:25:10 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=971#comment-59129 <p>Ryan: Then by all means people should call attention to it when it happens! Just saying "it's happening, but I won't tell you when, where or how" is not helping anything, because it's impossible to act against.</p> Ryan: Then by all means people should call attention to it when it happens! Just saying “it’s happening, but I won’t tell you when, where or how” is not helping anything, because it’s impossible to act against.

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