Comments on: Six years. Never forget. http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/ At home with Jono Bacon, Community Manager and Author Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: neuro http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-108535 neuro Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:37:27 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-108535 <p>Like you, Jono, I can remember where I was when I first heard what happened. I was working at WS Atkins in Glasgow, sitting at my desk just getting on with work (which, at the time, was an MS Exchange site migration), when someone walked past saying a plane had flown into the World Trade Center. We all thought she was kidding until we checked the BBC News website. Eventually the BBC, CNN, etc sites just broke down under the stress; the only site we could reliably get to was Ananova. I called my partner at the time to check the news, as she was at home that day and we'd just had Sky installed. She spent the rest of the afternoon flicking between News 24 and CNN, occasionally calling me with updates.</p> <p>Eventually someone wheeled out a television from a conference room, but without a decent aerial, all we could get was a fuzzy picture from Channel Five. We tuned in just before the first tower fell. I remember a huge gasp from the office as that happened.</p> <p>I spent the rest of the night after I got home glued to News 24 and the SmoothWall IRC channels - we were working hard on a new release set to go out the following weekend, and we just stopped what we were doing and could talk about nothing else about the day's events.</p> <p>I think for our generation, 9/11 carries that same "i'll never forget where I was" significance that events like the Apollo 11 moon landing, the JFK, RFK and John Lennon assassinations have for our parents' generations. (Although I can remember where i was when I heard about John Lennon: in the back seat of the family car with my dad, parked outside Gartloch Hospital while we waited for my mum to finish her night shift; heard the report on Radio Clyde's news bulletin).</p> Like you, Jono, I can remember where I was when I first heard what happened. I was working at WS Atkins in Glasgow, sitting at my desk just getting on with work (which, at the time, was an MS Exchange site migration), when someone walked past saying a plane had flown into the World Trade Center. We all thought she was kidding until we checked the BBC News website. Eventually the BBC, CNN, etc sites just broke down under the stress; the only site we could reliably get to was Ananova. I called my partner at the time to check the news, as she was at home that day and we’d just had Sky installed. She spent the rest of the afternoon flicking between News 24 and CNN, occasionally calling me with updates.

Eventually someone wheeled out a television from a conference room, but without a decent aerial, all we could get was a fuzzy picture from Channel Five. We tuned in just before the first tower fell. I remember a huge gasp from the office as that happened.

I spent the rest of the night after I got home glued to News 24 and the SmoothWall IRC channels – we were working hard on a new release set to go out the following weekend, and we just stopped what we were doing and could talk about nothing else about the day’s events.

I think for our generation, 9/11 carries that same “i’ll never forget where I was” significance that events like the Apollo 11 moon landing, the JFK, RFK and John Lennon assassinations have for our parents’ generations. (Although I can remember where i was when I heard about John Lennon: in the back seat of the family car with my dad, parked outside Gartloch Hospital while we waited for my mum to finish her night shift; heard the report on Radio Clyde’s news bulletin).

]]> By: Chris http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-106424 Chris Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:19:26 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-106424 <blockquote> <p>One of the hardest things when composing a vision in your head of an event like that is defining a scale, and trying to get an accurate hold on the sheer level of destruction and pain inflicted on so many innocent people.</p> </blockquote> <p>Yes, yes it is. And between 200,000 and 400,000 people have died (with over two million displaced) in Darfur in three of the years since the event you're posting about. It seems nothing short of racist that we refuse to treat it as belonging on the same page as something that killed only 3000 people and happened twice as long ago.</p> <p>(As erik says, there's also the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis killed.)</p> <ul> <li>Chris.</li> </ul>

One of the hardest things when composing a vision in your head of an event like that is defining a scale, and trying to get an accurate hold on the sheer level of destruction and pain inflicted on so many innocent people.

Yes, yes it is. And between 200,000 and 400,000 people have died (with over two million displaced) in Darfur in three of the years since the event you’re posting about. It seems nothing short of racist that we refuse to treat it as belonging on the same page as something that killed only 3000 people and happened twice as long ago.

(As erik says, there’s also the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis killed.)

  • Chris.
]]> By: Weeber http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-106292 Weeber Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:52:02 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-106292 <p>@Jono: Aren't you from UK? The UK's and USA's governments know who really planned and DID this attacks, and the answer is far from what you may think. Just do some research instead of just listening to what your government wants you to think. I know you're Metal so you must know of what I'm talking about.</p> @Jono: Aren’t you from UK? The UK’s and USA’s governments know who really planned and DID this attacks, and the answer is far from what you may think. Just do some research instead of just listening to what your government wants you to think. I know you’re Metal so you must know of what I’m talking about.

]]> By: nabil2199 http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-106244 nabil2199 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:38:38 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-106244 <p>these attacks kills lot more people if you count subsequent wars</p> these attacks kills lot more people if you count subsequent wars

]]> By: nathan http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-106243 nathan Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:36:37 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-106243 <p>hi. you web developer, long hair, Iron Maiden- yah yah. me busted knee and ankle- taking the day off from my job as a NYC bike messenger. Normally I had an 0845 pickup on the 86th floor of tower 2, missed it that day because i had a bike wreck the night before from too much drinking. someone else was there instead of me- selfishly i am thankful for that.</p> hi. you web developer, long hair, Iron Maiden- yah yah. me busted knee and ankle- taking the day off from my job as a NYC bike messenger. Normally I had an 0845 pickup on the 86th floor of tower 2, missed it that day because i had a bike wreck the night before from too much drinking. someone else was there instead of me- selfishly i am thankful for that.

]]> By: Sveinung http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-106223 Sveinung Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:27:21 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-106223 <p>Extremism in any form is bad??? Would you not find that statement a little... extreme? Is for example extremely good bad? What about extreme kindness? Would then a little evil mixed into the good be better, so it would not be so extreme? Perhaps it would be an idea to think about what one are extreme about and judge that, instead of saying that all extremism is bad. (Sorry for the rant, but I am sick and tired of relativism)</p> Extremism in any form is bad??? Would you not find that statement a little… extreme? Is for example extremely good bad? What about extreme kindness? Would then a little evil mixed into the good be better, so it would not be so extreme? Perhaps it would be an idea to think about what one are extreme about and judge that, instead of saying that all extremism is bad. (Sorry for the rant, but I am sick and tired of relativism)

]]> By: you http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-106215 you Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:14:24 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-106215 <p>me me me me me me me me Seriously is that all you think about? Yourself?</p> me me me me me me me me Seriously is that all you think about? Yourself?

]]> By: erik http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-106213 erik Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:02:01 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-106213 <p>You made a good point about getting the voice heard. That is a reason why you should also add to that 2700 the 160 000 collateral damage Iraqis - they were entirely run over and screwed up by the events as well.</p> <p>Yet no one seems to care about them, or hear the close ones of those people. Consider what that ignorance will do in time: you will have thousands of "Osamas" attempting to do the same, annually. Just because you are overlooking that part of all the pain and the suffering. There are millions more at this moment that are feeling exactly that bad, and there is no remedy in sight.</p> You made a good point about getting the voice heard. That is a reason why you should also add to that 2700 the 160 000 collateral damage Iraqis – they were entirely run over and screwed up by the events as well.

Yet no one seems to care about them, or hear the close ones of those people. Consider what that ignorance will do in time: you will have thousands of “Osamas” attempting to do the same, annually. Just because you are overlooking that part of all the pain and the suffering. There are millions more at this moment that are feeling exactly that bad, and there is no remedy in sight.

]]> By: Rob J. Caskey http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/09/11/six-years-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-106193 Rob J. Caskey Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:58:45 +0000 http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1029#comment-106193 <p>"can be the only solution to get your voice heard"...what about the Internet?</p> “can be the only solution to get your voice heard”…what about the Internet?

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