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	<title>Comments on: Canonical and KDE</title>
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	<description>At home with Jono Bacon, Community Manager and Author</description>
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		<title>By: Project Timelord, or How Not To Build A Project &#124; zwilnik</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-134569</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Timelord, or How Not To Build A Project &#124; zwilnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] read if you are a Canonical representative, and Jono Bacon certainly did not like it. He put up a response in his blog (Feb. 1, 2008), which I will not quote here since there is no short piece that works. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read if you are a Canonical representative, and Jono Bacon certainly did not like it. He put up a response in his blog (Feb. 1, 2008), which I will not quote here since there is no short piece that works. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: newslife site &#187; lottalinuxlinks.com linux user podcast 62</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-132039</link>
		<dc:creator>newslife site &#187; lottalinuxlinks.com linux user podcast 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] on Infinite Earths; Identity Crisis; Kingdom Come; Jonathan Riddell: Why Kubuntu is good for KDE; Jono Bacon: Canonical and KDE; ComputerWorld: interview with Aaron Seigo; renoise for linux, beta commercial port; and debian [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Infinite Earths; Identity Crisis; Kingdom Come; Jonathan Riddell: Why Kubuntu is good for KDE; Jono Bacon: Canonical and KDE; ComputerWorld: interview with Aaron Seigo; renoise for linux, beta commercial port; and debian [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Thomas: Kubuntu, the Blue-headed Stepchild &#124; Install and Use Ubuntu</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-125761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Thomas: Kubuntu, the Blue-headed Stepchild &#124; Install and Use Ubuntu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] post is meant to be read in the context of this post.I do not find fault with Canonical/Ubuntu does to invest in KDE/Kubuntu, but rather with what they [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post is meant to be read in the context of this post.I do not find fault with Canonical/Ubuntu does to invest in KDE/Kubuntu, but rather with what they [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-125309</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I switched to kubuntu from mandriva, because it was thet distro that best supported suspending in my laptop.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then I switched from kubuntu to ubuntu, only because, from my point of view, KDE is considered as second class desktop in ubuntu, and it&#039;s implementation is not so polished as GNOME&#039;s, so I decided to use the well supported desktop, instead&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I switched to kubuntu from mandriva, because it was thet distro that best supported suspending in my laptop.</p>

<p>Then I switched from kubuntu to ubuntu, only because, from my point of view, KDE is considered as second class desktop in ubuntu, and it&#8217;s implementation is not so polished as GNOME&#8217;s, so I decided to use the well supported desktop, instead</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gary M</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-119817</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Everyone using Kubuntu, Save yourselves! Migrate immediately to Slackware as soon as 12.1 comes out in a week or so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s the only logical thing to do...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone using Kubuntu, Save yourselves! Migrate immediately to Slackware as soon as 12.1 comes out in a week or so.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s the only logical thing to do&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ryan McDonough</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-116898</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan McDonough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;KDE wants to have it&#8217;s cake and eat it....&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have noticed recently that (some) KDE developers and promoters want to have their cake and eat it. There has been alot of promoting KDE 4.0 with a big release event and alot of website promotion. However once reviews started coming in (since the RC&amp;#...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>KDE wants to have it&#8217;s cake and eat it&#8230;.</strong></p>

<p>I have noticed recently that (some) KDE developers and promoters want to have their cake and eat it. There has been alot of promoting KDE 4.0 with a big release event and alot of website promotion. However once reviews started coming in (since the RC&amp;#&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Phred Zed</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-116065</link>
		<dc:creator>Phred Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One paid developer is hardly adequate support.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I like Canonical&#039;s software base (courtesy of Debian) and the release cycle is great, but there&#039;s no avoiding the fact that KDE is the ugly stepchild in down in Ubuntuville. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m hoping for better in the future, but in the meantime I&#039;m experimenting with Mepis, Mandriva, and other distros that place a priority on KDE.  GNOME just isn&#039;t an option for me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One paid developer is hardly adequate support.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I like Canonical&#8217;s software base (courtesy of Debian) and the release cycle is great, but there&#8217;s no avoiding the fact that KDE is the ugly stepchild in down in Ubuntuville. </p>

<p>I&#8217;m hoping for better in the future, but in the meantime I&#8217;m experimenting with Mepis, Mandriva, and other distros that place a priority on KDE.  GNOME just isn&#8217;t an option for me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chandru</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-115641</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Canonical is putting a mask.  In Gutsy, an update to libxine1 either tried to pull a bunch of gnome packages.  Or gave a broken update.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is in spite of the fact that Kubuntu apps use Xine by default while Ubuntu apps don&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is a big joke if someone from Canonical says they give equal care for Kubuntu, when they don&#039;t even test on kubuntu.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/+bug/164801&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canonical is putting a mask.  In Gutsy, an update to libxine1 either tried to pull a bunch of gnome packages.  Or gave a broken update.</p>

<p>This is in spite of the fact that Kubuntu apps use Xine by default while Ubuntu apps don&#8217;t.</p>

<p>It is a big joke if someone from Canonical says they give equal care for Kubuntu, when they don&#8217;t even test on kubuntu.</p>

<p><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/+bug/164801" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/+bug/164801</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: W. Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-115620</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;After reading the numerous comments on this Kubuntu/KDE matter, and as a long time GNU/Linux user and technology professional with good experience of both (Gnome + KDE) desktops on *Buntu, I can honestly say that a serious problem exists, whether by inference or in reality.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My impression is that Canonical needs to be &quot;completely, and unequivocably clear&quot; about their support for KDE and how it differs/is same as compared to Gnome. This will cover &quot;their reasons and thinking&quot; from both business and technical perspectives.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If &quot;it is clear&quot; that Gnome has a decided preference, then I feel KDE users will be disappointed, maybe angry  but not confused and felt misled. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Honesty and clarity are and always be the best approach - especially with any large and diverse population like that comprising the Free Software/Open Source Community.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Only then can we all go forward, with a &quot;clear&quot; vision of what is next for each of us.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;W. Anderson
wanderson@nac.net&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the numerous comments on this Kubuntu/KDE matter, and as a long time GNU/Linux user and technology professional with good experience of both (Gnome + KDE) desktops on *Buntu, I can honestly say that a serious problem exists, whether by inference or in reality.</p>

<p>My impression is that Canonical needs to be &#8220;completely, and unequivocably clear&#8221; about their support for KDE and how it differs/is same as compared to Gnome. This will cover &#8220;their reasons and thinking&#8221; from both business and technical perspectives.</p>

<p>If &#8220;it is clear&#8221; that Gnome has a decided preference, then I feel KDE users will be disappointed, maybe angry  but not confused and felt misled. </p>

<p>Honesty and clarity are and always be the best approach &#8211; especially with any large and diverse population like that comprising the Free Software/Open Source Community.</p>

<p>Only then can we all go forward, with a &#8220;clear&#8221; vision of what is next for each of us.</p>

<p>W. Anderson
<a href="mailto:wanderson@nac.net">wanderson@nac.net</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/02/01/canonical-and-kde/comment-page-2/#comment-115602</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For various reasons I am still on dial up internet &amp; am a very grateful recipient/user  of a free Kubuntu CD as my main OS.  Thank you canonical &amp; the Kubuntu community.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For various reasons I am still on dial up internet &amp; am a very grateful recipient/user  of a free Kubuntu CD as my main OS.  Thank you canonical &amp; the Kubuntu community.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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