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	<title>Comments on: Invigorating GNOME</title>
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		<title>By: world ending 2012</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-161771</link>
		<dc:creator>world ending 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;get vista working, or learn something new&quot; Classic, I think you made the right choice, gnome &amp; Linux all the way I say&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;get vista working, or learn something new&#8221; Classic, I think you made the right choice, gnome &amp; Linux all the way I say</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bas</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-125783</link>
		<dc:creator>Bas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem is that most people do not want to change the way they work, and I must admit, using Gnome professionally, I would not like to see radical changes, as a private user I would love to see more radical changes. I think this is the problem of most Gnome users.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If things don&#039;t work out talking changes within, then you can always fork it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good luck.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that most people do not want to change the way they work, and I must admit, using Gnome professionally, I would not like to see radical changes, as a private user I would love to see more radical changes. I think this is the problem of most Gnome users.</p>

<p>If things don&#8217;t work out talking changes within, then you can always fork it.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wedding hair Brisbane</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-125097</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedding hair Brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When my husband got a new laptop I asked for his old one. It had Windows 2000 on it. I asked him to install an Ubuntu disk that my son gave me. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It works just fine and I don&#039;t have to worry too much about viruses and the like. Open Office is much like Microsoft and I love the wobbly windows and special effects.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Go Linux !&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my husband got a new laptop I asked for his old one. It had Windows 2000 on it. I asked him to install an Ubuntu disk that my son gave me. </p>

<p>It works just fine and I don&#8217;t have to worry too much about viruses and the like. Open Office is much like Microsoft and I love the wobbly windows and special effects.</p>

<p>Go Linux !</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Australian Web Directory</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-125011</link>
		<dc:creator>Australian Web Directory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good for you. The transition to Linux takes a little while, but there&#039;s heaps of good information and help online and the Linux community is fantastic.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you. The transition to Linux takes a little while, but there&#8217;s heaps of good information and help online and the Linux community is fantastic.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brisbane Internet Consultant</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-124974</link>
		<dc:creator>Brisbane Internet Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a recent convert to Linux and GNOME. The choice was to try to get Vista working, or learn something new. I think I&#039;ve made the right choice.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a recent convert to Linux and GNOME. The choice was to try to get Vista working, or learn something new. I think I&#8217;ve made the right choice.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-124241</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you really really want to re-invigorate Gnome - you need to change how you invite change (less &#039;developer&#039; focused meetings)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Invite artists, graphic designers, user interface architects, psychologists, workflow analysts, 15 year olds, etc... they should brainstorm and come up with sexy, impractical, wonky visions of new form factors and ways to work with software.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The programmers, system designers, software architects should ignore what we have right now and design from the ground up new toolkits to construct said ideas in a modular and robust fashion (CSS so artists can build the look - who could have thunk it!) as well as re-inforce best practices (testing, stability, refactorability)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then with that vision of some utopia - then with the project managers and architects build a road map that implements the best 20% of the toolkits into Gnome and let people at it.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is no reason to de-stabilize the desktop.... but this resistance to change from old schoolers has really made Gnome a boring place to be --- and I don&#039;t know about you but I hate working in a grey cubical no matter how stable and predictable it is.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really really want to re-invigorate Gnome &#8211; you need to change how you invite change (less &#8216;developer&#8217; focused meetings)</p>

<p>Invite artists, graphic designers, user interface architects, psychologists, workflow analysts, 15 year olds, etc&#8230; they should brainstorm and come up with sexy, impractical, wonky visions of new form factors and ways to work with software.</p>

<p>The programmers, system designers, software architects should ignore what we have right now and design from the ground up new toolkits to construct said ideas in a modular and robust fashion (CSS so artists can build the look &#8211; who could have thunk it!) as well as re-inforce best practices (testing, stability, refactorability)</p>

<p>Then with that vision of some utopia &#8211; then with the project managers and architects build a road map that implements the best 20% of the toolkits into Gnome and let people at it.  </p>

<p>There is no reason to de-stabilize the desktop&#8230;. but this resistance to change from old schoolers has really made Gnome a boring place to be &#8212; and I don&#8217;t know about you but I hate working in a grey cubical no matter how stable and predictable it is.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-124239</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With the recent reactions in blogs - what reason would someone have to come to your session when it seems like all forward looking ideas get steamrolled by the old schoolers.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It would seem there is so much negativity out there towards the creative and slash and burn types that by the time the complainers catch up with the visionaries we will be 15-20 years along and still 3 years out from a new desktop because no one has created a vision...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is much improvement needed to the desktop - the 1-2 inches of wasted space with status bars, toolbars, menus, etc is indicative of developers and users spoiled with 20&quot;+ screens.  The programs, while functional, are quite bland and un-inspirational (do you want to work in a grey cubical all your life???).  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Those trying to fit into other form factors, or leverage other bling like 3d, CSS, and animations will refine the desktop in ways not quite visible to those in plaid pants panicking over their desktop being taken over and pimped out leaving nothing working in the wake.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sure - the desktop metaphor hasn&#039;t changed - but you would be hard pressed to find anyone wanting to go back to 10 years ago.  I&#039;m not even sure I want to stick with a platform that doesn&#039;t show interest in improving itself.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the recent reactions in blogs &#8211; what reason would someone have to come to your session when it seems like all forward looking ideas get steamrolled by the old schoolers.  </p>

<p>It would seem there is so much negativity out there towards the creative and slash and burn types that by the time the complainers catch up with the visionaries we will be 15-20 years along and still 3 years out from a new desktop because no one has created a vision&#8230;</p>

<p>There is much improvement needed to the desktop &#8211; the 1-2 inches of wasted space with status bars, toolbars, menus, etc is indicative of developers and users spoiled with 20&#8243;+ screens.  The programs, while functional, are quite bland and un-inspirational (do you want to work in a grey cubical all your life???).  </p>

<p>Those trying to fit into other form factors, or leverage other bling like 3d, CSS, and animations will refine the desktop in ways not quite visible to those in plaid pants panicking over their desktop being taken over and pimped out leaving nothing working in the wake.</p>

<p>Sure &#8211; the desktop metaphor hasn&#8217;t changed &#8211; but you would be hard pressed to find anyone wanting to go back to 10 years ago.  I&#8217;m not even sure I want to stick with a platform that doesn&#8217;t show interest in improving itself.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The Ultimate Guide to Choosing the Right Desktop Enviroment &#187; Linux, open source and me at Internetling dot com</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-123157</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ultimate Guide to Choosing the Right Desktop Enviroment &#187; Linux, open source and me at Internetling dot com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] the way to go: it&#8217;s a big project with cool people working on it, but I&#8217;m not sure if they already know what the next step is going to be. GNOME still remains a default choice for most people and is the leading desktop environment, which [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the way to go: it&#8217;s a big project with cool people working on it, but I&#8217;m not sure if they already know what the next step is going to be. GNOME still remains a default choice for most people and is the leading desktop environment, which [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lucas Rocha &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Notes on the Future of GNOME: Problems and Questions</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-121899</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Rocha &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Notes on the Future of GNOME: Problems and Questions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] time already) with regards to our beloved project. They overlap in many ways with the opinion of some people who have already commented on the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] time already) with regards to our beloved project. They overlap in many ways with the opinion of some people who have already commented on the [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eric willemen</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/06/11/invigerating-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-121791</link>
		<dc:creator>eric willemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;-With KDE4, which is truly impressive, couldnâ€™t the GNOME developers consider using QT4 as its new base, and could even draw upon some of the widgets/libraries that KDE4 has (if desired.) GNOME and KDE4 would use the same base, but would be different configuration/flavors-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not going to happen unless novell want to kill of is linux division.
QT 4 is or will be gpl 3 soon, the fsf made some last year provisions to gpl 3 to punish novell for their linux sell out to microsoft. If gnome switches to qt then the fsf will be able to revoke novells license if they publish a new linux distro based on that qt gnome..&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-With KDE4, which is truly impressive, couldnâ€™t the GNOME developers consider using QT4 as its new base, and could even draw upon some of the widgets/libraries that KDE4 has (if desired.) GNOME and KDE4 would use the same base, but would be different configuration/flavors-</p>

<p>Not going to happen unless novell want to kill of is linux division.
QT 4 is or will be gpl 3 soon, the fsf made some last year provisions to gpl 3 to punish novell for their linux sell out to microsoft. If gnome switches to qt then the fsf will be able to revoke novells license if they publish a new linux distro based on that qt gnome..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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