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		<title>By: junjle</title>
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		<dc:creator>junjle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;:sad::mad::lol::eek::cry::wink::roll::razz::oops::grin::evil::cool::???::smile::shock::twisted::neutral::mrgreen:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Daeng Bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daeng Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I got into Metallica back when Dave was still with them, in their demo days. I fell in love with them for KeA and branded Ride the Lightening as my favorite album for at least ten years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sadly, though you liked their speedier stuff starting with MoP, it kind of turned me off, and while I bought all their albums up to and including Metallica, I didn&#039;t really like much in between. While Metallica the album was commercial, at least it was slower. I thought it was actually closer to RtL than anything between, too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I dn&#039;t listen to them much anymore except for their really early stuff, but I was still happy to find out that they&#039;ve embraced online music and sell copies of all their live concerts online for relatively little money.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got into Metallica back when Dave was still with them, in their demo days. I fell in love with them for KeA and branded Ride the Lightening as my favorite album for at least ten years.</p>

<p>Sadly, though you liked their speedier stuff starting with MoP, it kind of turned me off, and while I bought all their albums up to and including Metallica, I didn&#8217;t really like much in between. While Metallica the album was commercial, at least it was slower. I thought it was actually closer to RtL than anything between, too.</p>

<p>I dn&#8217;t listen to them much anymore except for their really early stuff, but I was still happy to find out that they&#8217;ve embraced online music and sell copies of all their live concerts online for relatively little money.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My big conflict is that.... well, I totally agree with you and then some. I would go so far as to call St. Anger &quot;an abomination unto the ears&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But on the other hand, &quot;modern&quot; metal, including the kinds of things you listed, do nothing for me either. In an effort to be fair, I plugged some of those names into last.fm and saw what it coughed up for me, and what I got was a whole bunch of reasonably talented guitarists saddled with vocalists that sound like they are trying to imitate either: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;cookie monster, &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Immortal (who did it far better), or &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;A hair-clogged shower drain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I go listen to old Metallica, or Megadeth, or Iron Maiden, what I get is awesome guitars on top of a vocalist who not only doesn&#039;t suck, but is actively good. They sing more than scream, actual words come out and everything. And that makes me miss them all the more, and keep going back to those old albums like Master of Puppets even though I remain thoroughly disgusted with what Metallica has become.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(As I was writing this, last.fm came up with Ligeia, and kind of made a liar out of me, this guy is actually singing in between the throaty shrieks. But my point stands!)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My big conflict is that&#8230;. well, I totally agree with you and then some. I would go so far as to call St. Anger &#8220;an abomination unto the ears&#8221;.</p>

<p>But on the other hand, &#8220;modern&#8221; metal, including the kinds of things you listed, do nothing for me either. In an effort to be fair, I plugged some of those names into last.fm and saw what it coughed up for me, and what I got was a whole bunch of reasonably talented guitarists saddled with vocalists that sound like they are trying to imitate either: </p>

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<li><p>cookie monster, </p></li>
<li><p>Immortal (who did it far better), or </p></li>
<li><p>A hair-clogged shower drain.</p></li>
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<p>When I go listen to old Metallica, or Megadeth, or Iron Maiden, what I get is awesome guitars on top of a vocalist who not only doesn&#8217;t suck, but is actively good. They sing more than scream, actual words come out and everything. And that makes me miss them all the more, and keep going back to those old albums like Master of Puppets even though I remain thoroughly disgusted with what Metallica has become.</p>

<p>(As I was writing this, last.fm came up with Ligeia, and kind of made a liar out of me, this guy is actually singing in between the throaty shrieks. But my point stands!)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Adriano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;they have not released a decent thrash album (the reason why most of us love Metallica&quot;
I disagree. Copies sold point to Metallica, Load and Reload as being &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; appreciated albums. Though you could argue about the &quot;loved&quot; part.
Metallica right now is a Wii (except the Wii actually is good): designed for the casual masses, you are asking for an Xbox360 or a PS3, something that caters more to your &#039;hardcore&#039; taste.
Apologies for the analogy.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they have not released a decent thrash album (the reason why most of us love Metallica&#8221;
I disagree. Copies sold point to Metallica, Load and Reload as being <em>very</em> appreciated albums. Though you could argue about the &#8220;loved&#8221; part.
Metallica right now is a Wii (except the Wii actually is good): designed for the casual masses, you are asking for an Xbox360 or a PS3, something that caters more to your &#8216;hardcore&#8217; taste.
Apologies for the analogy.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Metallica at Reading festival this year were pretty... lame... ok, they had nice pyrotechnics, but the fact that I stayed in the same place through most of the afternoon, was completely surrounded and couldn&#039;t even stand up when Tenacious D were on, but had a huge space around me during Metallica confirms my suspicion that while they may be great, they just don&#039;t pump up that excitement in people anymore... &quot;Oh, it&#039;s Metallica&quot; - was a comment I heard quite a lot...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metallica at Reading festival this year were pretty&#8230; lame&#8230; ok, they had nice pyrotechnics, but the fact that I stayed in the same place through most of the afternoon, was completely surrounded and couldn&#8217;t even stand up when Tenacious D were on, but had a huge space around me during Metallica confirms my suspicion that while they may be great, they just don&#8217;t pump up that excitement in people anymore&#8230; &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s Metallica&#8221; &#8211; was a comment I heard quite a lot&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jesse Jarzynka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Jarzynka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well said Jono. Makes you wonder why a band like Hatebreed can evolve (albeit not much musically) but at least put on an incredible show. Just saw them last month and it was incredible. As opposed to seeing Metallica where you wait the whole show to hear &quot;Creeping Death&quot; or &quot;Frayed Ends of Sanity&quot; and they only play 30 seconds of it in an &quot;old stuff montage&quot;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Watching Some Kind of Monster made me feel the death of one of my top 5 bands. Watching them whine like a bunch of rich people with too much money who need a full time therapist just so they can stand being in the same room together! Here&#039;s a hint guys: if you can&#039;t stand being near each other, the music you make is probably gonna suck! And watching Bob Rock and Lars talk Kirk out of recording a solo because it didn&#039;t sound like the current trends! Congratulations guys, Kirk was exactly right, St. Anger is now firmly dated with Limp Bizkit and Puddle of Mudd!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not to mention offering Trujillo a million dollars to join the band. They are now exactly what their first 4 albums raged against, capitalist greed at it&#039;s fullest level. In order to make metal, you must have a band that wants to play together just to play together. Not to make more money or redeem a reputation. Losing Cliff and even Jason were the worst things that ever happened to Metallica. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope the new album somehow is amazing and makes me feel like putting on my Ride the Lightning shirt again. But rehab, yoga, and suing your own fans is not a recipe for Metal Up Your Ass (tm).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Jono. Makes you wonder why a band like Hatebreed can evolve (albeit not much musically) but at least put on an incredible show. Just saw them last month and it was incredible. As opposed to seeing Metallica where you wait the whole show to hear &#8220;Creeping Death&#8221; or &#8220;Frayed Ends of Sanity&#8221; and they only play 30 seconds of it in an &#8220;old stuff montage&#8221;. </p>

<p>Watching Some Kind of Monster made me feel the death of one of my top 5 bands. Watching them whine like a bunch of rich people with too much money who need a full time therapist just so they can stand being in the same room together! Here&#8217;s a hint guys: if you can&#8217;t stand being near each other, the music you make is probably gonna suck! And watching Bob Rock and Lars talk Kirk out of recording a solo because it didn&#8217;t sound like the current trends! Congratulations guys, Kirk was exactly right, St. Anger is now firmly dated with Limp Bizkit and Puddle of Mudd!</p>

<p>Not to mention offering Trujillo a million dollars to join the band. They are now exactly what their first 4 albums raged against, capitalist greed at it&#8217;s fullest level. In order to make metal, you must have a band that wants to play together just to play together. Not to make more money or redeem a reputation. Losing Cliff and even Jason were the worst things that ever happened to Metallica. </p>

<p>I hope the new album somehow is amazing and makes me feel like putting on my Ride the Lightning shirt again. But rehab, yoga, and suing your own fans is not a recipe for Metal Up Your Ass &#8482;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aaron Lake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d have to agree that after The Black Album Metallica made a radical musical change... for the most part.  A lot of people forget about Garage Inc.  Disc two had a lot of fantastic newer recordings; granted they&#039;re covers but very good covers.  That&#039;s one thing Metallica has always been, an absolutely fantastic cover band: Am I evil?, Breadfan, Damage Case.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I signed up for missionmetallica.com back when it first opened and I check out the new content almost every day.  What I&#039;ve heard of this reboot album sounds pretty good so far, but like you said, we&#039;ll wait and see.  Regardless, I&#039;m over the Napster thing, and I&#039;ll forgive their new direction and continue to their earlier works which unarguably are some of the best metal ever recorded.  Again, we&#039;ll see what happens in September.  I&#039;ll be at their national tour either way, maybe more then once.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to agree that after The Black Album Metallica made a radical musical change&#8230; for the most part.  A lot of people forget about Garage Inc.  Disc two had a lot of fantastic newer recordings; granted they&#8217;re covers but very good covers.  That&#8217;s one thing Metallica has always been, an absolutely fantastic cover band: Am I evil?, Breadfan, Damage Case.</p>

<p>I signed up for missionmetallica.com back when it first opened and I check out the new content almost every day.  What I&#8217;ve heard of this reboot album sounds pretty good so far, but like you said, we&#8217;ll wait and see.  Regardless, I&#8217;m over the Napster thing, and I&#8217;ll forgive their new direction and continue to their earlier works which unarguably are some of the best metal ever recorded.  Again, we&#8217;ll see what happens in September.  I&#8217;ll be at their national tour either way, maybe more then once.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your music snobbery and knowledge is to be commended! I&#039;m a fellow music snob who is now more interested in electronica but still likes Blind Guardian and Metallica.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your music snobbery and knowledge is to be commended! I&#8217;m a fellow music snob who is now more interested in electronica but still likes Blind Guardian and Metallica.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jono</title>
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		<dc:creator>jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Paul - I thought it was interesting as a kind of experiment, and some songs worked better than others. It was a touch pretentious, but hey, this is metal - thats what we do at times. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; I thought it was interesting as a kind of experiment, and some songs worked better than others. It was a touch pretentious, but hey, this is metal &#8211; thats what we do at times. <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jono</title>
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		<dc:creator>jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jonas - which bit of &quot;I totally agree that bands change styles, thats fine - I understand they donâ€™t want to be playing speed metal any more, but I also listen to a bunch of bands that play the kind of music that Metallica seem to be going for (Black Label Society, Megadeth, Blaze etc), but I just donâ€™t know if Metallicaâ€™s version of it is my cup of tea.&quot; is unclear - I made it quite clear that I am not clinging onto the past and I do accept that they change.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonas &#8211; which bit of &#8220;I totally agree that bands change styles, thats fine &#8211; I understand they donâ€™t want to be playing speed metal any more, but I also listen to a bunch of bands that play the kind of music that Metallica seem to be going for (Black Label Society, Megadeth, Blaze etc), but I just donâ€™t know if Metallicaâ€™s version of it is my cup of tea.&#8221; is unclear &#8211; I made it quite clear that I am not clinging onto the past and I do accept that they change.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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