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	<title>Comments on: Announcing The Ubuntu Hall Of Fame</title>
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	<description>At home with Jono Bacon, Community Manager and Author</description>
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		<title>By: Peng&#8217;s links for Thursday, 20 November &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/11/19/announcing-the-ubuntu-of-fame/comment-page-1/#comment-134320</link>
		<dc:creator>Peng&#8217;s links for Thursday, 20 November &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Bacon: Announcing the Ubuntu Hall Of Fame. We&#8217;ve got some rock stars in the Ubuntu community. To find out who you have to read [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Ubuntu Hall of Fame :: Czytelnia</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/11/19/announcing-the-ubuntu-of-fame/comment-page-1/#comment-127457</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu Hall of Fame :: Czytelnia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] czas temu Jono Bacon (pracujÄ…cy dla Canonical na stanowisku Ubuntu Community Manager) ogÅ‚osiÅ‚ na swoim blogu, Å¼e wystartowaÅ‚ nowy serwis - Ubuntu Hall of Fame. Jono jest jego pomysÅ‚odawcÄ… i jednym z [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] czas temu Jono Bacon (pracujÄ…cy dla Canonical na stanowisku Ubuntu Community Manager) ogÅ‚osiÅ‚ na swoim blogu, Å¼e wystartowaÅ‚ nowy serwis &#8211; Ubuntu Hall of Fame. Jono jest jego pomysÅ‚odawcÄ… i jednym z [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/11/19/announcing-the-ubuntu-of-fame/comment-page-1/#comment-127007</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great idea! But ...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Where is the Ubuntu Artwork community? This is one of the most important ones but is not present there. It&#039;s a shame!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Where is the Ubuntu Artwork community? This is one of the most important ones but is not present there. It&#8217;s a shame!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Holbach&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The HoF</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/11/19/announcing-the-ubuntu-of-fame/comment-page-1/#comment-126938</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Holbach&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The HoF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] I&#8217;m very pleased the Ubuntu Hall of Fame is announced. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Jef Spaleta</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/11/19/announcing-the-ubuntu-of-fame/comment-page-1/#comment-126919</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef Spaleta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John Goerzen:
If this is tied inherently into internal launchpad processes as Jono&#039;s response to me has indicated...see comment 3... how would you go about extending this to appropriately give credit to Debian contributors? Would the entirely of Debian&#039;s community process have to be driven through Launchpad to be recorded for the HOF to list?  Debian is just one of many upstream groups whose effort can&#039;t be represented by a shallow dive into Launchpad&#039;s data pool. 
Hopefully the fact that some Debian contributors are left out and some aren&#039;t, won&#039;t become a point of contention.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s worse, Launchpad&#039;s own internal processes may skew rankings by mis-attributing upstream work in some cases.  For example:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/258370&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once things like karma becomes an established and officially adopted recognition mechanism, having processes which mis-attribute karma awards can present problems for people who begin to care deeply about being recognized in the HOF.  This can become contentious, especially if the ranking mechanism can&#039;t be relied on to get the activity awards assigned equitably. Even more so if in the future these highest rankings get turned into some sort of material gain, like swag from the Ubuntu store.  If the rankings can&#039;t be relied on to be accurate, then you can end up demoralizing the people who are not rewarded..more than you lift up the people who are.  Good luck.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-jef&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Goerzen:
If this is tied inherently into internal launchpad processes as Jono&#8217;s response to me has indicated&#8230;see comment 3&#8230; how would you go about extending this to appropriately give credit to Debian contributors? Would the entirely of Debian&#8217;s community process have to be driven through Launchpad to be recorded for the HOF to list?  Debian is just one of many upstream groups whose effort can&#8217;t be represented by a shallow dive into Launchpad&#8217;s data pool. 
Hopefully the fact that some Debian contributors are left out and some aren&#8217;t, won&#8217;t become a point of contention.</p>

<p>What&#8217;s worse, Launchpad&#8217;s own internal processes may skew rankings by mis-attributing upstream work in some cases.  For example:</p>

<p><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/258370" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/258370</a></p>

<p>Once things like karma becomes an established and officially adopted recognition mechanism, having processes which mis-attribute karma awards can present problems for people who begin to care deeply about being recognized in the HOF.  This can become contentious, especially if the ranking mechanism can&#8217;t be relied on to get the activity awards assigned equitably. Even more so if in the future these highest rankings get turned into some sort of material gain, like swag from the Ubuntu store.  If the rankings can&#8217;t be relied on to be accurate, then you can end up demoralizing the people who are not rewarded..more than you lift up the people who are.  Good luck.</p>

<p>-jef</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have a wee improvement that would make it even more awesome - At the top of the page, you could include a stock ticker or something showing all the latest active launchpad users - these people are the people having their 5 minutes of fame, and added up are just as important as the people with top karma etc.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d like to see you integrate with Debian systems for this, recognizing that pretty much everyone that is a Debian contributor is also automatically an Ubuntu contributor!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Vadi</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/11/19/announcing-the-ubuntu-of-fame/comment-page-1/#comment-126901</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What if a person isn&#039;t directly listed in Launchpad, but contributed enormously to ubuntu?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Links 20/11/2008: IBM to Buy Transitive, China Helps GNU/Linux Development</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Links 20/11/2008: IBM to Buy Transitive, China Helps GNU/Linux Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Announcing The Ubuntu OF Fame [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: MÃ¥rten Woxberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>MÃ¥rten Woxberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great! But the featured contributor iFrame is too small.
The Images of the people who has sent thanks are too big.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Top 5-A-Day Contributors, Upstream Bug Rockstars and Latest Developers should be horizontally aligned, Thus the size of the Featured Contributor iFrame could be slightly bigger.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! But the featured contributor iFrame is too small.
The Images of the people who has sent thanks are too big.</p>

<p>Top 5-A-Day Contributors, Upstream Bug Rockstars and Latest Developers should be horizontally aligned, Thus the size of the Featured Contributor iFrame could be slightly bigger.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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