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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/15/thunderbird-3-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-149277</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you want to access Yahoo mail via imap and Thunderbird, then please read and download at:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.aliasbailbonds.com/KeeForm/category/thunderbird&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to access Yahoo mail via imap and Thunderbird, then please read and download at:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.aliasbailbonds.com/KeeForm/category/thunderbird" rel="nofollow">http://www.aliasbailbonds.com/KeeForm/category/thunderbird</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gaston</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/15/thunderbird-3-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-128973</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had been using the previous version, Shredder 2. After installing Thunderbird 3 Beta I had problems like yours.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I delted the account. Added it again, and now it&#039;s working perfectly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve got no explanation to the problem, but doing it twice did the job.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been using the previous version, Shredder 2. After installing Thunderbird 3 Beta I had problems like yours.</p>

<p>I delted the account. Added it again, and now it&#8217;s working perfectly.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve got no explanation to the problem, but doing it twice did the job.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Links 17/12/2008: 64-bit Java, Toledo for F/OSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Links 17/12/2008: 64-bit Java, Toledo for F/OSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Thunderbird 3 Beta [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/15/thunderbird-3-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-128268</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Thanks, Sandy! Check out https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2258 :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that&#039;s what I tried, and TB tells me it&#039;s not compatible when I try to load it.  But I see it might have problems for Lightning users, so I&#039;m better off not using it anyway, I guess.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Really hoping the tango updates Bryan et al have been blogging about get into TB3 soon! :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Thanks, Sandy! Check out <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2258" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2258</a> <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what I tried, and TB tells me it&#8217;s not compatible when I try to load it.  But I see it might have problems for Lightning users, so I&#8217;m better off not using it anyway, I guess.</p>

<p>Really hoping the tango updates Bryan et al have been blogging about get into TB3 soon! <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alberto</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/15/thunderbird-3-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-128260</link>
		<dc:creator>Alberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I&#039;m still stucked on Thunderbird 2 (using KDE) but I want to change to Gnome and one of the issues if e-mail software.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I haven&#039;t been able to send attachments on GMail over IMAP. There is no way. Always the server rejects the message.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I know to people who use Evolution, and got no problems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, I want to change my e-mail software to Evolution.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m still stucked on Thunderbird 2 (using KDE) but I want to change to Gnome and one of the issues if e-mail software.</p>

<p>I haven&#8217;t been able to send attachments on GMail over IMAP. There is no way. Always the server rejects the message.</p>

<p>And I know to people who use Evolution, and got no problems.</p>

<p>So, I want to change my e-mail software to Evolution.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Fab</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/15/thunderbird-3-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-128236</link>
		<dc:creator>Fab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh sweet mother of God! That popup is priceless. The Doom comment is spot on as well.... :lol:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sweet mother of God! That popup is priceless. The Doom comment is spot on as well&#8230;. <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: hb</title>
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		<dc:creator>hb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Concerning your remarks about integration into GNOME: This is not only to be blamed on Thunderbird, but GNOME sometimes tends to make it hard for 3rd party applications to properly integrate into the desktop. Lets take an example that you mentioned: Having your calendar events show up in the clock applet. Instead of allowing a standard event interchange format, such as iCal subscriptions, GNOME only allows feeding the clock applet from EDS exclusively. Just compare the enhancement bug reports to &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396887&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GNOME&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2712&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Xfce&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning your remarks about integration into GNOME: This is not only to be blamed on Thunderbird, but GNOME sometimes tends to make it hard for 3rd party applications to properly integrate into the desktop. Lets take an example that you mentioned: Having your calendar events show up in the clock applet. Instead of allowing a standard event interchange format, such as iCal subscriptions, GNOME only allows feeding the clock applet from EDS exclusively. Just compare the enhancement bug reports to <a href="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396887" rel="nofollow">GNOME</a> and <a href="http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2712" rel="nofollow">Xfce</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GermÃ¡n PÃ³o-CaamaÃ±o</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/15/thunderbird-3-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-128216</link>
		<dc:creator>GermÃ¡n PÃ³o-CaamaÃ±o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For Gmail, you can improve the performance of Evolution showing only subscirbed folder.  You can subscribe to everything, except Gmail/All Mails.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Evolution 2.24 feels slow because it tries to fetch the headers before to give the control back, and the &quot;virtual&quot; folder Gmail/All Mails is a bit big.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I never have used it before, so it is not a big deal to no subscribe it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Gmail, you can improve the performance of Evolution showing only subscirbed folder.  You can subscribe to everything, except Gmail/All Mails.</p>

<p>Evolution 2.24 feels slow because it tries to fetch the headers before to give the control back, and the &#8220;virtual&#8221; folder Gmail/All Mails is a bit big.</p>

<p>I never have used it before, so it is not a big deal to no subscribe it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jono</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/15/thunderbird-3-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-128215</link>
		<dc:creator>jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jason:&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;It always amazes me when people obtain a beta product released for testing purposes, and then complain and point fingers when they come across programming/development error or debug messages. That module or piece of code may be right in the middle of full development, or specifically cryptic so that the developer can track or â€˜forceâ€™ users to report it without ignoring it or looking for workarounds, and the issue is never reported.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry, Jason - this was  not meant as an unconstructive gripe. It was more of an observation. You are right though, I should file a bug. I am just not sure whether I should file it with Google or Mozilla - I guess the stupid error is a Google bug, but it would be nice for TB to pretty it up a bit.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason:</p>

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  <p>It always amazes me when people obtain a beta product released for testing purposes, and then complain and point fingers when they come across programming/development error or debug messages. That module or piece of code may be right in the middle of full development, or specifically cryptic so that the developer can track or â€˜forceâ€™ users to report it without ignoring it or looking for workarounds, and the issue is never reported.</p>
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<p>Sorry, Jason &#8211; this was  not meant as an unconstructive gripe. It was more of an observation. You are right though, I should file a bug. I am just not sure whether I should file it with Google or Mozilla &#8211; I guess the stupid error is a Google bug, but it would be nice for TB to pretty it up a bit.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sutherland</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/15/thunderbird-3-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-128213</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Sutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thunderbird 3 introduces auto-sync logic with a default preference to store all IMAP messages offline by default.  Although Thunderbird is not ridiculously aggressive about the downloading, it is automatically fetching things, which is certainly more aggressive than previous versions&#039; not-downloading.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The error message is a result of Thunderbird just presenting the user with what the server said.  Clearly, it would be useful to have Thunderbird say &quot;The google server said:&quot;, but it&#039;s still an odd/not so useful choice for an error message that needs to get shown to the user...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thunderbird 3 introduces auto-sync logic with a default preference to store all IMAP messages offline by default.  Although Thunderbird is not ridiculously aggressive about the downloading, it is automatically fetching things, which is certainly more aggressive than previous versions&#8217; not-downloading.</p>

<p>The error message is a result of Thunderbird just presenting the user with what the server said.  Clearly, it would be useful to have Thunderbird say &#8220;The google server said:&#8221;, but it&#8217;s still an odd/not so useful choice for an error message that needs to get shown to the user&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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