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		<title>By: Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu numÃ©ro 123 du 21 dÃ©cembre au 3 janvier 2008 &#171; Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu numÃ©ro 123 du 21 dÃ©cembre au 3 janvier 2008 &#171; Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: n8</title>
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		<dc:creator>n8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One valuable thing might be to encourage existing LoCos to share more of the &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; of successful events.  Photos and attendance reports are great to hear, but the nuts and bolts all along the journey, too -- how far in advance do you call up potential sponsors and what will you need to be able to tell them, when to ask about venues, will a local college actually be cheaper than a hotel if you&#039;re not students, etc.  A lot of those issues are pretty straightforward once you&#039;ve been through them once or twice, but can &lt;em&gt;seem&lt;/em&gt; quite opaque if you&#039;re just getting started.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was quite impressed with what I learned from the Ohio Linux Fest gang this year; they employ a wide open model for all to see and learn from, and Ontario Linux Fest is evidence that the knowledge sharing works.  LoCos aren&#039;t exactly the same, of course, but the larger LoCos could probably share a lot more information by telling the story of their events -- bug/docjam, installfest, advocacy, whatever -- than they could by trying to polish it into a KB &quot;howto&quot; article, where sincere effort at generalization can accidentally drain genuine detail.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One valuable thing might be to encourage existing LoCos to share more of the <em>how</em> of successful events.  Photos and attendance reports are great to hear, but the nuts and bolts all along the journey, too &#8212; how far in advance do you call up potential sponsors and what will you need to be able to tell them, when to ask about venues, will a local college actually be cheaper than a hotel if you&#8217;re not students, etc.  A lot of those issues are pretty straightforward once you&#8217;ve been through them once or twice, but can <em>seem</em> quite opaque if you&#8217;re just getting started.</p>

<p>I was quite impressed with what I learned from the Ohio Linux Fest gang this year; they employ a wide open model for all to see and learn from, and Ontario Linux Fest is evidence that the knowledge sharing works.  LoCos aren&#8217;t exactly the same, of course, but the larger LoCos could probably share a lot more information by telling the story of their events &#8212; bug/docjam, installfest, advocacy, whatever &#8212; than they could by trying to polish it into a KB &#8220;howto&#8221; article, where sincere effort at generalization can accidentally drain genuine detail.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darcy Casselman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy Casselman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is all the more true for a country like Canada.  Not to take anything away from the ubuntu-ca volunteers, but having one LoCo for a country this size doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;During the Ontario Linux Fest, we had a presenter up from the US who asked for a show of hands if anybody was involved in a LoCo.  Nobody put up their hand.  He seemed surprised--when he&#039;s asked the same question at the Ohio Linux Fest, or some event in Rochester, quite a few people were involved.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the solution to this may be giving the country group some autonomy in deciding how their region should be subdivided, and actively engaging people in those regions to organize.  For Canada, that might mean provincial subgroups.  For a lot of other countries, that might mean no subdivision at all.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all the more true for a country like Canada.  Not to take anything away from the ubuntu-ca volunteers, but having one LoCo for a country this size doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense.</p>

<p>During the Ontario Linux Fest, we had a presenter up from the US who asked for a show of hands if anybody was involved in a LoCo.  Nobody put up their hand.  He seemed surprised&#8211;when he&#8217;s asked the same question at the Ohio Linux Fest, or some event in Rochester, quite a few people were involved.</p>

<p>I think the solution to this may be giving the country group some autonomy in deciding how their region should be subdivided, and actively engaging people in those regions to organize.  For Canada, that might mean provincial subgroups.  For a lot of other countries, that might mean no subdivision at all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Futcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Futcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A problem I have found with LoCo&#039;s currently (I only have experience with my loco team, ubuntu-uk, but I&#039;m almost certain that the problem exists within other Loco teams) is that events only happen in one or two places; they don&#039;t seem to spread out around the country. For example, in the UK Loco team, most of the &quot;real life&quot; events are held in London, or somewhere in the South of England. This isn&#039;t great for those living in Scotland or Northern England. Another developer has also noticed this behaviour in his Loco (Ohio, I think), where all the events are held in one city.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While this is partly a geographic issue (I am aware a large amount of the population of the UK reside in the South of England) I think that solving issues like this is important for the Ubuntu community to grow at a grass roots level. Whether this means having &quot;locos-within-locos&quot; (Ubuntu-Scotland probably would not be able to exist as a standalone Loco, but I could see it being a &quot;branch&quot; of Ubuntu-UK) or simply encouraging people to hold events in varied locations, I think this is a problem that wont be too difficult to fix, but one that is important to try to sort.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A problem I have found with LoCo&#8217;s currently (I only have experience with my loco team, ubuntu-uk, but I&#8217;m almost certain that the problem exists within other Loco teams) is that events only happen in one or two places; they don&#8217;t seem to spread out around the country. For example, in the UK Loco team, most of the &#8220;real life&#8221; events are held in London, or somewhere in the South of England. This isn&#8217;t great for those living in Scotland or Northern England. Another developer has also noticed this behaviour in his Loco (Ohio, I think), where all the events are held in one city.</p>

<p>While this is partly a geographic issue (I am aware a large amount of the population of the UK reside in the South of England) I think that solving issues like this is important for the Ubuntu community to grow at a grass roots level. Whether this means having &#8220;locos-within-locos&#8221; (Ubuntu-Scotland probably would not be able to exist as a standalone Loco, but I could see it being a &#8220;branch&#8221; of Ubuntu-UK) or simply encouraging people to hold events in varied locations, I think this is a problem that wont be too difficult to fix, but one that is important to try to sort.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Fabian Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabian Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I see another huge challenge involving any LocoTeam from a country where English is not the official language.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Launchpad is not available in any other language, and as a result many people can&#039;t contribute to it in their own language. Bug reports would need some special sauce to accomodate other people&#039;s contributions, however.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Answers system and its FAQs is perhaps where such language support would benefit the most.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having a proper translation of several key LocoTeams wiki pages also comes to mind, starting with the Leaders code of conduct.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see another huge challenge involving any LocoTeam from a country where English is not the official language.</p>

<p>Launchpad is not available in any other language, and as a result many people can&#8217;t contribute to it in their own language. Bug reports would need some special sauce to accomodate other people&#8217;s contributions, however.</p>

<p>The Answers system and its FAQs is perhaps where such language support would benefit the most.</p>

<p>Having a proper translation of several key LocoTeams wiki pages also comes to mind, starting with the Leaders code of conduct.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nixternal</title>
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		<dc:creator>nixternal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;YOU&#039;VE GOT MAIL! You and Daniel both are spending way to much time away from the computer when I need to talk to you!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I like some of the ideas here and think some might be a good thing to implement into this project sometime in the future.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU&#8217;VE GOT MAIL! You and Daniel both are spending way to much time away from the computer when I need to talk to you!</p>

<p>I like some of the ideas here and think some might be a good thing to implement into this project sometime in the future.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig Box</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was involved with the NZ team before I moved north (18 months ago), and we were going to be used as a case for &#039;mentoring&#039;. Didn&#039;t really work at the time, as there wasn&#039;t anything that we found we could do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I checked and see that NZ still isn&#039;t on the approved list, and would respectfully suggest that the barrier to official approval is too high.  At least in that small country, where most of the LoCo members are already working through other channels (national Open Source society, LUGs etc), there is a good group of people who would make great representatives for the project, who already send out stickers and help people who post to their mailing list, but getting the &quot;official seal of approval&quot; involves having the group do three official things, a large hoop to jump through for little reward.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps the anointing of the team would spur the kind of activities you want to see the teams active in?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was involved with the NZ team before I moved north (18 months ago), and we were going to be used as a case for &#8216;mentoring&#8217;. Didn&#8217;t really work at the time, as there wasn&#8217;t anything that we found we could do.</p>

<p>I checked and see that NZ still isn&#8217;t on the approved list, and would respectfully suggest that the barrier to official approval is too high.  At least in that small country, where most of the LoCo members are already working through other channels (national Open Source society, LUGs etc), there is a good group of people who would make great representatives for the project, who already send out stickers and help people who post to their mailing list, but getting the &#8220;official seal of approval&#8221; involves having the group do three official things, a large hoop to jump through for little reward.</p>

<p>Perhaps the anointing of the team would spur the kind of activities you want to see the teams active in?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Martin Pihl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Pihl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The idea of a collection of materials to be used acros LoCo teams has been around for quite few years, but it finally seems to actually get realized.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is called Spreadubuntu, and the development site can be reached here: http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can join the Marketing team if you want to help on the project, and you can also start uploading Dutch materials if you have something to share.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of a collection of materials to be used acros LoCo teams has been around for quite few years, but it finally seems to actually get realized.</p>

<p>It is called Spreadubuntu, and the development site can be reached here: <a href="http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org" rel="nofollow">http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org</a></p>

<p>You can join the Marketing team if you want to help on the project, and you can also start uploading Dutch materials if you have something to share.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think a good integration with openstreetmap would rock!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW it would rock for LP also ;) (Google maps stinks!)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a good integration with openstreetmap would rock!</p>

<p>BTW it would rock for LP also <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  (Google maps stinks!)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jono</title>
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		<dc:creator>jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the idea of shared resources is a good one, and this has been organised in the past. I will check to see if the project is still going.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It makes sense to provide a repository of materials that LoCo s can use, translate and improve upon. It would also be nice to have an online gallery of the range of current materials.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea of shared resources is a good one, and this has been organised in the past. I will check to see if the project is still going.</p>

<p>It makes sense to provide a repository of materials that LoCo s can use, translate and improve upon. It would also be nice to have an online gallery of the range of current materials.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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