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	<description>At home with Jono Bacon, Community Manager and Author</description>
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		<title>By: Sajid Iqbal</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129254</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajid Iqbal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This wasn&#039;t a big issue but cooked by media. Response of some of the Ubuntu community members is really saddening.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wasn&#8217;t a big issue but cooked by media. Response of some of the Ubuntu community members is really saddening.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Joseph James Frantz</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129244</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph James Frantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Typical.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: teb</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129238</link>
		<dc:creator>teb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well said. humanity to others.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said. humanity to others.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matthew Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129237</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mackenzie, Ubuntu netbooks (and a $429 Ubuntu desktop with a Pentium DC processor) are readily available, you just have to click Ubuntu on the product selector on the left-hand side of their page after you&#039;ve selected desktop or laptop from the drop-down menu.  They are also cheaper than the Windows XP models.  None of that is true in the UK, where Linux models have their own section of the Dell website, which is not easy to find.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The bit about the warranty is surprising, since in this country, Dell are one of the few companies which openly state that their warranty is not void if you install Linux (let alone Windows).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mackenzie, Ubuntu netbooks (and a $429 Ubuntu desktop with a Pentium DC processor) are readily available, you just have to click Ubuntu on the product selector on the left-hand side of their page after you&#8217;ve selected desktop or laptop from the drop-down menu.  They are also cheaper than the Windows XP models.  None of that is true in the UK, where Linux models have their own section of the Dell website, which is not easy to find.</p>

<p>The bit about the warranty is surprising, since in this country, Dell are one of the few companies which openly state that their warranty is not void if you install Linux (let alone Windows).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matthew Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129236</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem is that the press will always pick up on the bad aspects of a story, because no news is good news and &quot;woman can&#039;t use her computer and someone helps her&quot; isn&#039;t a story.  I know this from some of the demonstrations I&#039;ve been to over recent years: some idiots doing some damage (as in Kensington a couple of weekends ago) or shouting offensive slogans get all the publicity, even if they were a small group of known troublemakers who were not part of the original demo.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems that she has been misinformed all the way down the line, but I do think Dell may be partly at fault here.  I&#039;ve just looked at their US website, and you can just pick Ubuntu or FreeDOS from the product selector on the left-hand side, and the Ubuntu laptops which come up are all netbooks and are all either $30 or $50 cheaper than the equivalent Windows XP ones.  (Why they allow FreeDOS is beyond me - that is an even bigger recipe for disaster if someone who doesn&#039;t know anything other than that it costs less gets one with that on it, although I suppose it&#039;s good for someone who wants Linux but not Ubuntu.)  In the UK, the Dell Linux machines are tucked away in a corner of their site, although Linux netbooks are readily available elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Could someone have just gone and helped this lady get set up?  Was it a case of Linux being incompatible with her hardware or her network equpiment?  (That is a long-running problem, which I remember from the days of dial-up connections and &quot;winmodems&quot; and the old Alcatel Frog.)  If you have a standard broadband connection and a router, Linux will work very well; if you have anything else, you might come unstuck.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the press will always pick up on the bad aspects of a story, because no news is good news and &#8220;woman can&#8217;t use her computer and someone helps her&#8221; isn&#8217;t a story.  I know this from some of the demonstrations I&#8217;ve been to over recent years: some idiots doing some damage (as in Kensington a couple of weekends ago) or shouting offensive slogans get all the publicity, even if they were a small group of known troublemakers who were not part of the original demo.</p>

<p>It seems that she has been misinformed all the way down the line, but I do think Dell may be partly at fault here.  I&#8217;ve just looked at their US website, and you can just pick Ubuntu or FreeDOS from the product selector on the left-hand side, and the Ubuntu laptops which come up are all netbooks and are all either $30 or $50 cheaper than the equivalent Windows XP ones.  (Why they allow FreeDOS is beyond me &#8211; that is an even bigger recipe for disaster if someone who doesn&#8217;t know anything other than that it costs less gets one with that on it, although I suppose it&#8217;s good for someone who wants Linux but not Ubuntu.)  In the UK, the Dell Linux machines are tucked away in a corner of their site, although Linux netbooks are readily available elsewhere.</p>

<p>Could someone have just gone and helped this lady get set up?  Was it a case of Linux being incompatible with her hardware or her network equpiment?  (That is a long-running problem, which I remember from the days of dial-up connections and &#8220;winmodems&#8221; and the old Alcatel Frog.)  If you have a standard broadband connection and a router, Linux will work very well; if you have anything else, you might come unstuck.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: seb</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129232</link>
		<dc:creator>seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jono,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;one thing which bothered me the most after upgrading from hardy to intrepid where the regressions. Things that work and after upgrading stop working are a nuisance. (btw there are bugs for them)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;seb&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jono,</p>

<p>one thing which bothered me the most after upgrading from hardy to intrepid where the regressions. Things that work and after upgrading stop working are a nuisance. (btw there are bugs for them)</p>

<p>seb</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ean Schuessler</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129222</link>
		<dc:creator>Ean Schuessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, at least Debianers are up front about being rude, flame-prone gear heads. I guess excellence is our excuse. Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least Debianers are up front about being rude, flame-prone gear heads. I guess excellence is our excuse. Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mackenzie</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129213</link>
		<dc:creator>Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like what would happen if my mom got a Windows computer...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like what would happen if my mom got a Windows computer&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mackenzie</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129212</link>
		<dc:creator>Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and my thinking was &quot;what, they don&#039;t have libraries in your city?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and my thinking was &#8220;what, they don&#8217;t have libraries in your city?&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mackenzie</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/21/chill-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-129211</link>
		<dc:creator>Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While I agree that finding an Ubuntu laptop without knowing that the url is dell.com/ubuntu is nearly impossible, she was told by Dell that they&#039;d void her warranty if she installed Windows.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that finding an Ubuntu laptop without knowing that the url is dell.com/ubuntu is nearly impossible, she was told by Dell that they&#8217;d void her warranty if she installed Windows.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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