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	<title>Comments on: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala Beta Released: Testers Needed!</title>
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		<title>By: Puppet</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/02/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-beta-released-testers-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-132701</link>
		<dc:creator>Puppet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m testing the beta version, and everything seems to be quite ok.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;About the boot process I found two boring things&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1))
a [firmware bug] message appears during the boot, telling me to upgrade the firmware of my mobo. I fixed it simply activating the &quot;cool&#039;n quiet&quot; option in the bios of my mobo.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2))
sometimes, very often actually, server x doesn&#039;t start. Sometimes the sistem freezes on a gray screen, sometimes on the &quot;waiting image&quot; (you know, the little rounding ball...)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3)) (maybe related with 2)
Grub gave me an error &quot;Invalid environment block&quot; and couldn&#039;t start Karmic. I solved following the instructions in this link&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/439784&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m testing the beta version, and everything seems to be quite ok.</p>

<p>About the boot process I found two boring things</p>

<p>1))
a [firmware bug] message appears during the boot, telling me to upgrade the firmware of my mobo. I fixed it simply activating the &#8220;cool&#8217;n quiet&#8221; option in the bios of my mobo.</p>

<p>2))
sometimes, very often actually, server x doesn&#8217;t start. Sometimes the sistem freezes on a gray screen, sometimes on the &#8220;waiting image&#8221; (you know, the little rounding ball&#8230;)</p>

<p>3)) (maybe related with 2)
Grub gave me an error &#8220;Invalid environment block&#8221; and couldn&#8217;t start Karmic. I solved following the instructions in this link</p>

<p><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/439784" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/439784</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: aditya</title>
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		<dc:creator>aditya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[   13.180613] mmc0: Unknown controller version (2). You may experience problems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;this is what i get in boot process..
i am using dell vostro 1310 with base configurations....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[   13.180613] mmc0: Unknown controller version (2). You may experience problems.</p>

<p>this is what i get in boot process..
i am using dell vostro 1310 with base configurations&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ercoppa</title>
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		<dc:creator>ercoppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Testing this is simple: boot your system and after you  see a message about GRUB loading, you shouldnâ€™t see any other messages before you see the Ubuntu logo on a gray background. If you do see messages, you have found a bug.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Ubuntu dev are not agree with you [1].&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[1]https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/441209&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Greets, ercoppa.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Testing this is simple: boot your system and after you  see a message about GRUB loading, you shouldnâ€™t see any other messages before you see the Ubuntu logo on a gray background. If you do see messages, you have found a bug.</p>
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<p>Ubuntu dev are not agree with you [1].</p>

<p>[1]https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/441209</p>

<p>Greets, ercoppa.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: OP</title>
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		<dc:creator>OP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been using Ubuntu for just under a year. I&#039;d regard myself as non-technical, but might be up for helping with testing. There are however a few questions I&#039;d have.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I assume that others might have similar issues. What follows is my suggestion for what I would add to the above post/include in a new one if I wanted to draw in new testers, previously not involved in the community.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(This sounds more critical than I&#039;d intended. I&#039;m genuinely trying to be helpful.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) How long it&#039;ll take to download. (I have some idea having updated from Hardy-Intrepid-Jaunty, but others might not.) i.e. it&#039;ll take approximately x time on a y speed connection.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2) What problems am I likely to experience? Presumably there&#039;s a list of bugs already identified on Launchpad somewhere? A prominent link to this would be useful.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3) If I download the beta now, how do I later move to the production version? Do I have to install the whole thing or will it simply be a few patches?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4) What else do I need beyond a computer and an internet connection (e.g. launchpad account)?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using Ubuntu for just under a year. I&#8217;d regard myself as non-technical, but might be up for helping with testing. There are however a few questions I&#8217;d have.</p>

<p>I assume that others might have similar issues. What follows is my suggestion for what I would add to the above post/include in a new one if I wanted to draw in new testers, previously not involved in the community.</p>

<p>(This sounds more critical than I&#8217;d intended. I&#8217;m genuinely trying to be helpful.)</p>

<p>1) How long it&#8217;ll take to download. (I have some idea having updated from Hardy-Intrepid-Jaunty, but others might not.) i.e. it&#8217;ll take approximately x time on a y speed connection.</p>

<p>2) What problems am I likely to experience? Presumably there&#8217;s a list of bugs already identified on Launchpad somewhere? A prominent link to this would be useful.</p>

<p>3) If I download the beta now, how do I later move to the production version? Do I have to install the whole thing or will it simply be a few patches?</p>

<p>4) What else do I need beyond a computer and an internet connection (e.g. launchpad account)?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: suryaden</title>
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		<dc:creator>suryaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i&#039;ve downloading today the beta version, after my lenovo just do not work for karmic alpha 6, after update... so i switch again to jaunty.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;hope that the beta will run smooth on my lenovo g430... soon&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve downloading today the beta version, after my lenovo just do not work for karmic alpha 6, after update&#8230; so i switch again to jaunty.</p>

<p>hope that the beta will run smooth on my lenovo g430&#8230; soon</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: beow</title>
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		<dc:creator>beow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anywhere I can see how this jaws-dropping booting experience is supposed to look like? In my karmic beta it looks butt-ugly with low-res brown-greyish colors, much uglier than before in Jaunty. Indeed I have problems with boot messages displayed, and probably this will automagically fix itself, but I would surely appreciate a pointer to a video of the new boot process.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anywhere I can see how this jaws-dropping booting experience is supposed to look like? In my karmic beta it looks butt-ugly with low-res brown-greyish colors, much uglier than before in Jaunty. Indeed I have problems with boot messages displayed, and probably this will automagically fix itself, but I would surely appreciate a pointer to a video of the new boot process.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Horvoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horvoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m testing beta version. This is beauty and more user centric.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m testing beta version. This is beauty and more user centric.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gian Mario Tagliaretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gian Mario Tagliaretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a bit disappointed that &lt;em&gt;again&lt;/em&gt; networking is not working, and when the network doesn&#039;t work it&#039; a pain to fix.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You should really stop the &quot;running to ship the latest kernel nonsense&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit disappointed that <em>again</em> networking is not working, and when the network doesn&#8217;t work it&#8217; a pain to fix.</p>

<p>You should really stop the &#8220;running to ship the latest kernel nonsense&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jono</title>
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		<dc:creator>jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whoops! Thanks for the note, fixed! :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops! Thanks for the note, fixed! <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jono</title>
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		<dc:creator>jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just tested IRC support in Empathy, looks fine to me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just tested IRC support in Empathy, looks fine to me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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