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		<title>By: Ubuntu &#8211; Glorious Five Years &#171; UBUNTU Xpress</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/20/humanity-to-others-five-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-132912</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu &#8211; Glorious Five Years &#171; UBUNTU Xpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Humanity To Others: Five Years Later : Jonobacon [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Links 21/10/2009: Fedora 12 Beta is Out, Ubuntu Turns 5 and Gets IBM Support &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links 21/10/2009: Fedora 12 Beta is Out, Ubuntu Turns 5 and Gets IBM Support &#124; Boycott Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Humanity To Others: Five Years Later Five years ago today, the first ever Ubuntu (Warty Warthog) was released. Back then I was an Open Source Consultant working for the government-funded OpenAdvantage and had a (more) stupid beard. Five years later, I am working on my seventh release since I joined Canonical three years ago, and a more refined beard. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Humanity To Others: Five Years Later Five years ago today, the first ever Ubuntu (Warty Warthog) was released. Back then I was an Open Source Consultant working for the government-funded OpenAdvantage and had a (more) stupid beard. Five years later, I am working on my seventh release since I joined Canonical three years ago, and a more refined beard. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: aim</title>
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		<dc:creator>aim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Will CoC and CoC for Leadership be translated finally?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of cause the translations team can done this easily, but will those translations be as valid as an English original?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will CoC and CoC for Leadership be translated finally?</p>

<p>Of cause the translations team can done this easily, but will those translations be as valid as an English original?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Cloud Computing&quot; is such a misnomer because the entire Internet is a cloud and using a VPN is already a &quot;Private Cloud&quot;; but still, there is something that bothers me about Ubuntu One, &quot;Cloud Computing&quot; (which is really a safer term than &quot;Software As A Service&quot;) and all of the other muck that goes along with it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All in all, it seems the the Internet is going backwards to where PCs are going to be dumb terminals connected to the Internet Cloud mainframe.I foresee further loss of control and loss of data privacy. Yuk!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cloud Computing&#8221; is such a misnomer because the entire Internet is a cloud and using a VPN is already a &#8220;Private Cloud&#8221;; but still, there is something that bothers me about Ubuntu One, &#8220;Cloud Computing&#8221; (which is really a safer term than &#8220;Software As A Service&#8221;) and all of the other muck that goes along with it.</p>

<p>All in all, it seems the the Internet is going backwards to where PCs are going to be dumb terminals connected to the Internet Cloud mainframe.I foresee further loss of control and loss of data privacy. Yuk!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jared Spurbeck</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/20/humanity-to-others-five-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-132856</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Spurbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that they haven&#039;t been unethical, per se. I just didn&#039;t evangelize Ubuntu because I thought that my friends and people in the third world should be buying from Canonical and not Microsoft. I evangelized it because I thought the whole point was to set them free.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again, I don&#039;t resent Canonical making money. It&#039;s just that Red Hat and others know how to do it without depriving their users of freedoms I consider essential. If freedom wasn&#039;t important to me, and I just wanted the best integrated experience that all came from one company, I would&#039;ve been using Mac OS X.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that they haven&#8217;t been unethical, per se. I just didn&#8217;t evangelize Ubuntu because I thought that my friends and people in the third world should be buying from Canonical and not Microsoft. I evangelized it because I thought the whole point was to set them free.</p>

<p>Again, I don&#8217;t resent Canonical making money. It&#8217;s just that Red Hat and others know how to do it without depriving their users of freedoms I consider essential. If freedom wasn&#8217;t important to me, and I just wanted the best integrated experience that all came from one company, I would&#8217;ve been using Mac OS X.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Worth</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/20/humanity-to-others-five-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-132839</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to accuse Canonical of leveraging the community or acting in a unethical way at all. I&#039;ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper and they haven&#039;t done anything that made me feel uncomfortable. I think the Ubuntu team are doing it right. Keep up the good work!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to accuse Canonical of leveraging the community or acting in a unethical way at all. I&#8217;ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper and they haven&#8217;t done anything that made me feel uncomfortable. I think the Ubuntu team are doing it right. Keep up the good work!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jaduncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaduncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Personal benchmark: starting the Ubuntu Wikipedia page at 08:05, 16 September 2004.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Fun times...also aren&#039;t we old? &lt;em&gt;looks surprised&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personal benchmark: starting the Ubuntu Wikipedia page at 08:05, 16 September 2004.</p>

<p>Fun times&#8230;also aren&#8217;t we old? <em>looks surprised</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jayne The Great One</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne The Great One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That (more) stupid beard you had was class dude! hehehe ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That (more) stupid beard you had was class dude! hehehe <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow it&#039;s almost hard to believe that it&#039;s been 5 years! I&#039;m quite sure that the next 5 years will be very interesting :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow it&#8217;s almost hard to believe that it&#8217;s been 5 years! I&#8217;m quite sure that the next 5 years will be very interesting <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jared Spurbeck</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/20/humanity-to-others-five-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-132820</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Spurbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I kind of envy you. Ubuntu One disillusioned me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve got nothing against making money from Ubuntu; that money makes it even better. But I can&#039;t help but feel that &quot;Humanity to others&quot; is just a marketing slogan, to sell people on a proprietary services package. So when we&#039;re sharing it with friends and with people in the third world and everything, we&#039;re not giving them freedom but a &quot;free trial offer.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know that you&#039;re nice guys and all, I don&#039;t doubt that. I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s any better, in this case, than if you weren&#039;t. You&#039;re not going to abuse their trust, but you&#039;re going to leverage your market share to kill off free competition. Either that or you&#039;re going to be surpassed, after a whole lot of unnecessary duplication of effort.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of envy you. Ubuntu One disillusioned me.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve got nothing against making money from Ubuntu; that money makes it even better. But I can&#8217;t help but feel that &#8220;Humanity to others&#8221; is just a marketing slogan, to sell people on a proprietary services package. So when we&#8217;re sharing it with friends and with people in the third world and everything, we&#8217;re not giving them freedom but a &#8220;free trial offer.&#8221;</p>

<p>I know that you&#8217;re nice guys and all, I don&#8217;t doubt that. I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s any better, in this case, than if you weren&#8217;t. You&#8217;re not going to abuse their trust, but you&#8217;re going to leverage your market share to kill off free competition. Either that or you&#8217;re going to be surpassed, after a whole lot of unnecessary duplication of effort.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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