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		<title>By: A week in Portland, Oregon &#171; Aurélien&#8217;s room</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-135623</link>
		<dc:creator>A week in Portland, Oregon &#171; Aurélien&#8217;s room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Sprint for Ubuntu Lucid. We got some good work done on the DBusMenu front. You can read about it on Jono and Jorge blog [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sprint for Ubuntu Lucid. We got some good work done on the DBusMenu front. You can read about it on Jono and Jorge blog [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GoblinX Project &#187; GoblinX Newsletter, Issue 237 (02/14/2010)</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-135595</link>
		<dc:creator>GoblinX Project &#187; GoblinX Newsletter, Issue 237 (02/14/2010)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] KDE Application Indicators In GNOME [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Indicateurs application KDE dans GNOME</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-135589</link>
		<dc:creator>Indicateurs application KDE dans GNOME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 04:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Quelque chose que nous avons passé quelque temps à travailler sur ce cycle a été Réparer le désordre qui est la barre d&#039;état système. Ceci est basé sur un cahier des charges soumis à awesome Freedesktop par KDE. Le SPEC a été mis en œuvre par KDE, nous avons écrit une implémentation pour le panneau GNOME et elle a expédié dans Ubuntu [. . . ] URL article original: http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/ [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Quelque chose que nous avons passé quelque temps à travailler sur ce cycle a été Réparer le désordre qui est la barre d&#39;état système. Ceci est basé sur un cahier des charges soumis à awesome Freedesktop par KDE. Le SPEC a été mis en œuvre par KDE, nous avons écrit une implémentation pour le panneau GNOME et elle a expédié dans Ubuntu [. . . ] URL article original: <a href="http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/</a> [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Links 11/2/2010: LinuxQuestions.org Awards, Myst Online Set Free &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links 11/2/2010: LinuxQuestions.org Awards, Myst Online Set Free &#124; Boycott Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] KDE Application Indicators In GNOME Something we have been spending some time working on in this cycle has been fixing the mess that is the system tray. This is based upon an awesome specification submitted to Freedesktop by KDE. The spec has been implemented by KDE, we have written an implementation for the GNOME panel and it shipped in Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx Alpha 2. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] KDE Application Indicators In GNOME Something we have been spending some time working on in this cycle has been fixing the mess that is the system tray. This is based upon an awesome specification submitted to Freedesktop by KDE. The spec has been implemented by KDE, we have written an implementation for the GNOME panel and it shipped in Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx Alpha 2. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Luke Symes</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-135522</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Symes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, the spec says this:
&quot;Ubuntu status menus save space by using an indentation style different from traditional GTK menus: the leading (e.g. left) edge of the icon, in items with icons, is lined up with the leading edge of the text in items without icons.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apparently, in the picture above with Kopete&#039;s application indicator, the Quit item shouldn&#039;t have an icon. The submenu is correct according to the guidelines...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still doesn&#039;t look too good. I prefer the text being aligned.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the spec says this:
&#8220;Ubuntu status menus save space by using an indentation style different from traditional GTK menus: the leading (e.g. left) edge of the icon, in items with icons, is lined up with the leading edge of the text in items without icons.&#8221;</p>

<p>Apparently, in the picture above with Kopete&#8217;s application indicator, the Quit item shouldn&#8217;t have an icon. The submenu is correct according to the guidelines&#8230;</p>

<p>Still doesn&#8217;t look too good. I prefer the text being aligned.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: twilightomni</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-135520</link>
		<dc:creator>twilightomni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Right.  I just meant that the applet should take care of that.  [I think Ubuntu is upstream for the applet].&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  I just meant that the applet should take care of that.  [I think Ubuntu is upstream for the applet].</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@twighlightomni - icon-less menus isn&#039;t relevant to this specification. It&#039;s an implementation detail - the Gnome applet should respect the Gnome settings, the KDE version should follow KDE settings. It&#039;s not something that belongs in the spec.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@twighlightomni &#8211; icon-less menus isn&#8217;t relevant to this specification. It&#8217;s an implementation detail &#8211; the Gnome applet should respect the Gnome settings, the KDE version should follow KDE settings. It&#8217;s not something that belongs in the spec.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: seb</title>
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		<dc:creator>seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi all,
reading about all these patches going upstream I wonder how it will affect the next &quot;Ubuntu is not giving back&quot; discussion...?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I love adopting standards and pulling together into the same direction - it frees time and mind for other challenges.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks to all who did work on this!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,
reading about all these patches going upstream I wonder how it will affect the next &#8220;Ubuntu is not giving back&#8221; discussion&#8230;?</p>

<p>I love adopting standards and pulling together into the same direction &#8211; it frees time and mind for other challenges.</p>

<p>Thanks to all who did work on this!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-135509</link>
		<dc:creator>jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When the external dependency window for GNOME opens up we will propose it at that time.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the external dependency window for GNOME opens up we will propose it at that time.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/02/10/kde-application-indicators-in-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-135508</link>
		<dc:creator>jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s a bug, see the design page for what they are supposed to look like: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomStatusMenuDesignGuidelines&lt;/p&gt;
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