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		<title>By: Javier</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-140656</link>
		<dc:creator>Javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re totally right!! they&#039;re changing everything every time, it&#039;s good to rethink some things and change them, but not everything!, the windows buttons has to be on the right! as always, this is not Mac. Why they didn&#039;t redesign nautilus interface which is so old and need a refresh?!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Despite these details, ubuntu is great! and although sometimes I do not agree with certain changes, each version gets better and better!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re totally right!! they&#8217;re changing everything every time, it&#8217;s good to rethink some things and change them, but not everything!, the windows buttons has to be on the right! as always, this is not Mac. Why they didn&#8217;t redesign nautilus interface which is so old and need a refresh?!</p>

<p>Despite these details, ubuntu is great! and although sometimes I do not agree with certain changes, each version gets better and better!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-137842</link>
		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I totally concur.  Wouldn&#039;t it be wise to have separate applets and indicators (so that we get to choose which one we would like to have up there)?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally concur.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be wise to have separate applets and indicators (so that we get to choose which one we would like to have up there)?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ilya Skorik</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-136895</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilya Skorik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But in real life it&#039;s not so good :-(
Even popular pidgin it is beaten out from a theme&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But in real life it&#8217;s not so good <img src='http://www.jonobacon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> 
Even popular pidgin it is beaten out from a theme</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ralf</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-136883</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah. The spacing of the notification area is WAY TOO MUCH. And inconsistent with the spacing in the applets.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But that&#039;s like the other BIG usability bugs, they&#039;ve introduced in the last release.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;they fucked up the GDM: it doesn&#039;t fit on 1024 width anymore. How can you not notice this? How could you possible ship this?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;the notification bubble, is not in the top right corner, but just below it. They aren&#039;t going to fix it, because the 100+ people reporting this as a bug is explained it&#039;s a feature. They reserve space for the volume/brightness notification. Which is just ridiculous.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;SO everything, they do something, they do it almost perfectly and then they fuck it up with inconsistency.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not even going to touch the window buttons positions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let me take a dared guess; and I work with a lot of professional designers (i&#039;m not one of them); this is not done by designers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is not done, by people, who have an actual clue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Spacing needs to be consistent. Buttons needs to be at appropiate places, and take into consideration that we close a window about 100 times a day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Real designers would start with a visual grid. Not just random chosen spacing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PLEASE CANONICAL.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;HIRE DESIGNERS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THIS IS GOING WRONG AND IT&quot;S IN THE DETAILS!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. The spacing of the notification area is WAY TOO MUCH. And inconsistent with the spacing in the applets.</p>

<p>But that&#8217;s like the other BIG usability bugs, they&#8217;ve introduced in the last release.</p>

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<li><p>they fucked up the GDM: it doesn&#8217;t fit on 1024 width anymore. How can you not notice this? How could you possible ship this?</p></li>
<li><p>the notification bubble, is not in the top right corner, but just below it. They aren&#8217;t going to fix it, because the 100+ people reporting this as a bug is explained it&#8217;s a feature. They reserve space for the volume/brightness notification. Which is just ridiculous.</p></li>
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<p>SO everything, they do something, they do it almost perfectly and then they fuck it up with inconsistency.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not even going to touch the window buttons positions.</p>

<p>Let me take a dared guess; and I work with a lot of professional designers (i&#8217;m not one of them); this is not done by designers.</p>

<p>This is not done, by people, who have an actual clue.</p>

<p>Spacing needs to be consistent. Buttons needs to be at appropiate places, and take into consideration that we close a window about 100 times a day.</p>

<p>Real designers would start with a visual grid. Not just random chosen spacing.</p>

<p>PLEASE CANONICAL.</p>

<p>HIRE DESIGNERS.</p>

<p>THIS IS GOING WRONG AND IT&#8221;S IN THE DETAILS!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ralf</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-136882</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a bit worried you call this sleeck. The spacing between the panel applets (wireless + volume) is different from the other icons.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Which is, I think, a big regression from lucid. Add to that that they still display notifications at some random area which isn&#039;t the top right (to preverse space for a possible brightness or volume notification).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It just feels clumsy. With all the new magic, which is very cool, consistency is king.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you loose consistency, the new magic means nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit worried you call this sleeck. The spacing between the panel applets (wireless + volume) is different from the other icons.</p>

<p>Which is, I think, a big regression from lucid. Add to that that they still display notifications at some random area which isn&#8217;t the top right (to preverse space for a possible brightness or volume notification).</p>

<p>It just feels clumsy. With all the new magic, which is very cool, consistency is king.</p>

<p>If you loose consistency, the new magic means nothing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-136868</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ubuntu should work on the app launchers on the left side of the desktop.  They&#039;ve always looked wrong and now they look even worse.  Maybe scale them so they are shorter than the panel ?  Not sure.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubuntu should work on the app launchers on the left side of the desktop.  They&#8217;ve always looked wrong and now they look even worse.  Maybe scale them so they are shorter than the panel ?  Not sure.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Patman</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-136862</link>
		<dc:creator>Patman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;now the windows buttons just need to go back to where they were and were set.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;if it stays on the left im moving to fedora.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now the windows buttons just need to go back to where they were and were set.</p>

<p>if it stays on the left im moving to fedora.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: tutuca</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-136834</link>
		<dc:creator>tutuca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed. Un even and way too much spacing.
But that&#039;s just the icon, wait until you upen up the menus!!! huge left column &gt;&gt;&gt; https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox-applet/+bug/533548&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Un even and way too much spacing.
But that&#8217;s just the icon, wait until you upen up the menus!!! huge left column &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox-applet/+bug/533548" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox-applet/+bug/533548</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Stedfast</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-136808</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Stedfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to agree that that screenshot of the panel is beautiful.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The b&amp;w icons on the dark grey background has a very simplistic look and just &quot;feels right&quot;, somehow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good luck on Lucid Lynx.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that that screenshot of the panel is beautiful.</p>

<p>The b&amp;w icons on the dark grey background has a very simplistic look and just &#8220;feels right&#8221;, somehow.</p>

<p>Good luck on Lucid Lynx.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bastian Kennel</title>
		<link>http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/09/i-never-realized/comment-page-1/#comment-136792</link>
		<dc:creator>Bastian Kennel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you use non-standard apps like
Banshee
Pidgin
Skype 
Dropbox
Compiz Fusion Icon
Logout/Shutdown Applet
You are currently left out, but nevertheless this is the right direction and beautiful!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you use non-standard apps like
Banshee
Pidgin
Skype 
Dropbox
Compiz Fusion Icon
Logout/Shutdown Applet
You are currently left out, but nevertheless this is the right direction and beautiful!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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